Discussion in 'Wrestling Talk - HS' started by Toughontop, Feb 12, 2019.
Select based on talent, power wins, and record.
Tellez of cienega
Only wish they would of announced this earlier for the Senior class wrestlers who are committed to college visits, and other commitments tournament wise and educational! You need everyone in that weight class to make it a true Champion. Know few wrestlers who have educational commitments to fulfill. It is all about wrestling unless it is education.
Can not say it is a true Champion Unless everyone is there.
What about Guerrero from WG
Both of those wrestlers are great but its hard to go against M. Castillo.
Guerrero is definitely one of the top wrestlers this year!
Guerrero, Finch, Andrews, Castillo, Echemendia, A, Martinez, D. Fernandez.
Marcus Castillo. Hands down.
Echemendia is the best wrestler in AZ, beat Fernandez, and Andrews. Have a feeling he will have a phenomenal freestyle season, most explosive wrestler I have ever seen on an AZ Mat.
you can be real explosive when you wrestle kids that are half your age
This is a tough question and really is everyone’s own opinion. You could debate this question for weeks. But you have to look at competition they have faced not only in AZ but out of state in big time tournaments. M. Castillo is a great wrestler and could be the best wrestler in AZ. But he didn’t face any great compition this year. No one that will be going D1 that’s for sure. Nothing against him just need justification with competition. Could have been solidified if he stayed at 138 for Doc Wright and faced Quin and Jarmen. Which would have been a great match.
But I’d have to say Ybarra, Tellez, or Guerrero have my vote. But I really like Tellez not only because he beat Ybarra in states but he also won Freak Show which is one of the biggest tournaments nation wide. And I like his decision to go down and face the best at the time Ybarra. I don’t know if that was planned or the reason he dropped but that takes some guts. But I also wish he stayed at 132lb to see him face Castillo now that would have been nice. But no one knew Castillo was dropping either.
But there’s a lot of questions that need to be answered before solidifying this answer. Let’s just make a 4 man tourney Ybarra, Guerrero, Tellez, and Castillo winner takes all. Sorry so long!!!
just because they don't wrestle in the AIA doesn't mean they aren't "the best" in AZ--
Valiant College Preparatory
I'm sure these guys would be in the best category...Larkin, Alanis, Ramos, ex Cibola kid who was AA (sorry cant remember his name)...just saying, they would ruin your AIA State Tournament at whos best.
I have no dog in this fight, but all of those guys lose to Ybarra, Guerrero, Tellez and Castillo 9 times out of 10. Don't know who the Cibola guy you're talking about is, only ex-Cibola AA that I know is Gandara who is at Poway.
If they are around the same weight as Ybarra, Tellez, Guerrero, or Castillo 126-132 or even if they are 138 I’d take my chances with the guys I listed over all the guys you listed. Again just my opinion. What’s their first names so I can check out track to see who you are talking about. And I’ll give you a better answer.
I have done my research and these guys have serious credentials. Ramos is a beast. And I’m sure all would shake up the state placers. I seen A few wins over state placers actually in dominate fashion. We could possibly see some matches this off season where these guys do meet up. Our questions could be answered. Time will tell.
Maybe Valiant should wrestle at Peoria, Flowing Wells or Mike High. They can if they want to.
Not taking anything away from Valiant but they’re not attending these tournaments for a reason.
Very solid points, Tellez did win Freak Show, I’m not sure if it was at Varsity or Elite? Huge difference! Other thing is Castillo, Tellez and Guerrero all train together under Coach Vega with Tucson Cyclones. It was probably known that M. Castillo was dropping to 134 so adjustments could be made. Now with that happening makes Castillo the man! Tellez was very impressive at state, but I’d have to say top dog in AZ is Marcus Castillo this year.
Palosika of Mountain Pointe at 220. Not sure Deasey or Padwe will be able to stay at 220 next year
Separate names with a comma.