2016 Divisions

[Allazallstars]

Looks like the divisions for next year (pending any petitions) have been released.

Only changes I saw are:
Cibola being bumped up to Division 1
Thunderbird being bumped up to Division 2


They have not released any sectional information yet

 

[raidybaby]

Something needs to be done about Division I Sections. Here is the breakdown of State results:

D1S1:
32 total placers
6 1st
6 2nd
4 3rd
7 4th
3 5th
6 6th

D1S2:
5 total placers
0 1st
1 2nd
2 3rd
1 5th
1 6th

D1S3
13 total placers
1 1st
2 2nd
1 3rd
4 4th
2 5th
3 6th

D1S4
34 total placers
7 1st
5 2nd
7 3rd
3 4th
8 5th
9 6th

There may have been some good wrestlers left behind at sectionals because only 4 can go. At 106, 113, 120 and 152# all 4 wrestlers from their prospective sections placed. What if the #5 and/or #6 wrestler was better than one from another section? That doesn't make for a true State Championship in my book...just my $0.02

 

[East Valley]

Where did you find the Division changes?

 

[Allazallstars]

http://aiaonline.org/files/14756/aia-divisions-sections-division-placement-by-individual-sports-2015-2018.pdf



From what I have been told there will be no changes to sections.

They will place Cibola into one of the 4 sections.

I would assume Section 2 since that is the one closest to them geo wise and that is the section they were in before the went down to division 2 a couple years ago.

 

[whenndoubtchokemout]

If Cibola goes back to the same section than they will get 14 into state every year.

 

[East Valley]

Cibola is tough. I think they lose a lot of seniors this year. I thought Liberty might also move up. Should be interesting.

 

[whenndoubtchokemout]

Mesa Mt. VIEW and Sunnyside will be losing alot of seniors/starters

 

[East Valley]

Mtn View has 9 returning starters. Lost 5 seniors. Looking at sectionals Sunnyside loses 6 starters. Both teams should still be pretty tough next year.

 

[bayoubadger]

Something to keep in mind. Only two of the seniors that Sunnyside loses placed at state. Two did not even make it to state. Mesa Mt. View loses a lot more of their team points from the state tournament.

 

[Allazallstars]

Does anyone know if any teams will be appealing their division placements to the executive board?

I heard rumor the Phoenix union schools might, like they did in all team sports.

I heard rumor Ironwood Ridge will be. (I think they would be the favorites in D1 next year based off of returning points).

But it is all rumor, don't know anything for fact.

 

[wjd]

Unofficial numbers here, but glancing at the brackets.

Mt. View returns 7 wrestlers who qualified for state and scored a total of 83.5 pts.
Sunnyside returns 7 wrestlers who qualified for state and scored 107 pts.
Ironwood Ridge 7 returns 7 who qalified for state and scored 113.5
Red Mountain returns 4 who scored 62 points

Mt. View probably has more depth in their program than the others at this point in time so I would imagine they'll reload and stay in the mix. If Cibola is in D1 next year then it could be one of the more exciting state tournaments than there's been in years. Four or five teams may have a shot.

 

[East Valley]

On paper I like who Ironwood Ridge brings back. Why would they petition? Arent the D1 already? They didn't get moved down to D2 did they? Or is it rumored that they want to go back to D2?

I think Cibola makes a huge impact on D1. They have a lot of depth as well.

Wow Liberty brings back 11 state qualifiers and 131 points! Tough to beat at D2.

 

[Allazallstars]

Ironwood Ridge was just a rumor I heard,

that is why I was asking if anyone knew for sure.

Just like the Phoenix union schools is only a rumor.

Liberty should be Division 1, their school is huge. If they stay division 2, they will dominate for the next 3 year block.

 

[Allazallstars]

Individual Appeals just got posted

Bradshaw Mtn 2 to 3
Canyon del Oro 2 to 3
Desert View 2 to 3
Dysart 2 to 3
Florence 3 to 4
Flowing Wells 2 to 3
Kingman 2 to 3
Mesquite 1 to 2
Monument Valley 3 to 4
Notre Dame 2 to 3
Alhambra 1 to 2
Betty Fairfax 2 to 3
Camelback 2 to 3
Carl Hayden 1 to 2
Central 1 to 2
Cesar Chavez 1 to 2
North 1 to 2
South Mtn 2 to 3
Trevor Browne 1 to 2
Maryvale 1 to 2
Seton Catholic 3 to 2
Skyline 1 to 2
Winslow 3 to 4
Yuma 2 to 3


These are the teams appealing, they still have to be approved March 16th at the executive board meeting.

 

[CVCougar]

I find the number of D2 schools petitioning down to D3 interesting. If you exclude the top 3 teams, I don't see any difference between D2 and D3. There is a definite drop from D1 to D2, and another from D3 to D4. I think a lot of these schools that are dropping down will be disappointed if they think it is gonna get easier for them. It will certainly change the sections around. Possible D3 sections:
D1 North (14 teams) 4 top 10 teams
Blue Ridge, Bradshaw Mtn, Chinle, Chino Valley, Coconino, Flagstaff, Holbrook, Kingman, Lee Williams, Mingus, Mohave, Page, River Valley, Show Low
D2 South (15 teams) 1 top 10 team
Amphi, Canyon Del Oro, Catalina Magnet, Desert View, Douglas, Empire, Flowing Wells, Palo Verde, Pueblo Magnet, Rio Rico, Sabino, Sahuarita, Salpointe, Santa Rita, Walden Grove
D3 West (13 teams) 1 top 10 team
Betty Fairfax, Buckeye, Cactus, Camelback, Dysart, Estrella Foothills, Greenway, Moon Valley, Shadow Ridge, South Mtn., Wickenburg, Youngker, Yuma
D4 East (12 teams) 2 top 10 teams
Apache Junction, Casa Grande, Combs, Coolidge, Coronado, Cortez, Notre Dame, Payson, Safford, Saguaro, Tempe, Williams Field

 

[Allazallstars]

Possible Division 1 sections if all teams division appeals are approved
(using geography and current sections)

Section 1 = Hamilton, Perry, Chandler, Desert Vista, Brophy, Mountain Pointe, Basha, Gilbert and Highland

Section 2 = Tucson, Cibola, Westview, Sunnyside, Buena, Millenium, Marana, Ironwood Ridge

Section 3 = Boulder Creek, O'Connor, Pinnacle, Horizon, Mountain Ridge, North Canyon, Centennial, Valley Vista, Willow Canyon

Section 4 = Mesa, Red Mountain, Mountain View, Westwood, Corona, Desert Ridge, Dobson, Desert Mountain, Chaparral

 

[whenndoubtchokemout]

Allazallstars- I like those sections but it makes too much sense for the AIA

 

[Coach Pat]

I think we probably have a pretty good argument state wide to have 3 divisions as opposed to 4. I think that is a good assessment of the competition level between D1 and 2 and D3 and 4. Have some of the larger D2 schools go D1, larger D3 schools to D2, and D4 and remaining D3 become D3. It would make AZ more competitive and make the process to get to state more competitive. Just a thought.

 

[Allazallstars]

If they did, straight off of school population




Division 1
64 Teams

Rank School Population
1 Hamilton 3716
2 Mesa 3513
3 Red Mountain 3401
4 Tucson 3331
5 Perry 3188
6 Mountain View, Mesa 3176
7 Chandler 3124
8 Westwood 3108
9 Highland 3088
10 Desert Vista 3078
11 Trevor G. Browne 3050
12 Maryvale 2979
13 Alhambra 2810
14 Corona del Sol 2792
15 Mountain Pointe 2717
16 Central 2706
17 Desert Ridge 2688
18 San Luis 2659
19 Boulder Creek 2649
20 Dobson 2629
21 Brophy Prep 2624
22 Cesar Chavez 2613
23 North 2612
24 Basha 2595
25 Cibola 2594
26 Skyline 2543
27 Sandra Day O'Connor 2480
28 Valley Vista 2467
29 Westview 2463
30 Tolleson Union 2456
31 Pinnacle 2455
32 Gilbert 2450
33 Horizon 2283
34 Copper Canyon 2276
35 Sunnyside 2272
36 Desert Mountain 2266
37 Buena 2234
38 Millennium 2223
39 Mountain Ridge 2212
40 Kofa 2175
41 Liberty 2157
42 Desert View 2154
43 Rincon/University 2135
44 Marana 2124
45 Centennial 2115
46 Willow Canyon 2092
47 Chaparral 2081
48 La Joya Community 2071
49 Sunnyslope 2070
50 Carl Hayden 2067
51 Camelback 2043
52 Campo Verde 2027
53 Ironwood 2006
54 Independence 2005
55 Vista Grande 1993
56 Apollo 1979
57 Cienega 1973
58 North Canyon 1972
59 Mountain View Marana 1944
60 Raymond S. Kellis 1935
61 Betty H. Fairfax 1928
62 Mesquite 1920
63 Lake Havasu 1909
64 Sierra Linda 1899


Division 2
66 Teams

65 Barry Goldwater 1867
66 Verrado 1867
67 South Mountain 1865
68 Deer Valley 1859
69 Poston Butte 1844
70 Ironwood Ridge 1824
71 Paradise Valley 1824
72 Maricopa 1821
73 Gila Ridge 1809
74 McClintock 1806
75 Queen Creek 1790
76 Nogales 1761
77 Desert Edge 1755
78 Agua Fria 1747
79 Cholla Magnet 1731
80 Sahuaro 1725
81 Shadow Ridge 1714
82 Williams Field 1712
83 Washington 1708
84 Cactus Shadows 1705
85 Flowing Wells 1703
86 Glendale 1696
87 Sunrise Mountain 1679
88 Canyon Del Oro 1659
89 Catalina Foothills 1640
90 Bradshaw Mountain 1627
91 Peoria 1613
92 Higley 1606
93 Casa Grande 1602
94 Youngker 1593
95 Marcos de Niza 1592
96 Prescott 1582
97 Dysart 1577
98 Tempe 1577
99 Flagstaff 1500
100 Thunderbird 1499
101 Greenway 1468
102 Moon Valley 1464
103 Shadow Mountain 1462
104 Coconino 1434
105 Buckeye Union 1383
106 Pueblo Magnet 1371
107 Saguaro 1351
108 Douglas 1339
109 Apache Junction 1334
110 Combs 1299
111 Yuma 1294
112 Cactus 1288
113 Mohave 1268
114 Amphitheater 1239
115 Mingus Union 1205
116 Kingman 1131
117 Cortez 1124
118 Rio Rico 1116
119 Palo Verde Magnet 1086
120 Salpointe Catholic 1079
121 Walden Grove 1077
122 Coronado 1048
123 Estrella Foothills 1031
124 Sabino 1011
125 Chinle 1002
126 Safford 914
127 Catalina Magnet 889
128 Page 885
129 Empire 875
130 Sahuarita 872

Division 3
65 Teams

131 Notre Dame Prep 850
132 Show Low 805
133 Florence 797
134 American Leadership 770
135 Chino Valley 754
136 Lee Williams 735
137 Payson 734
138 Blue Ridge 729
139 Holbrook 729
140 Winslow 711
141 River Valley 703
142 Monument Valley 693
143 Snowflake 678
144 Tuba City 676
145 Santa Rita 674
146 Wickenburg 654
147 Window Rock 649
148 Fountain Hills 622
149 Coolidge 614
150 Globe 595
151 Seton Catholic Prep 563
152 Parker 539
153 Alchesay 531
154 Ganado 530
155 Canyon State Academy 468
156 Thatcher 466
157 San Tan Foothills 461
158 Many Farms 444
159 Northwest Christian 434
160 Santa Cruz Valley 429
161 Hopi 427
162 Benson 420
163 Round Valley 416
164 Camp Verde 414
165 Morenci Jr./Sr. 408
166 Bourgade Catholic 393
167 Pinon 391
168 Willcox 369
169 Tombstone 368
170 Valley Christian 353
171 Chandler Prep 342
172 Northland Prep 338
173 Bisbee 323
174 Yuma Catholic 314
175 San Carlos 302
176 St. Johns 294
177 AZ College Prep 280
178 San Manuel Jr./Sr. 276
179 Benjamin Franklin 273
180 Valley (Sanders) 273
181 Antelope Union 256
182 Greyhills Academy 246
183 Pima 236
184 Baboquivari 222
185 Phoenix Christian 221
186 Red Mesa 216
187 Mayer 215
188 Arizona Lutheran 177
189 San Pasqual 177
190 Valley Lutheran 158
191 Mogollon 124
192 Joseph City 116
193 Tohono O'Odham 115
194 PDSD 97
195 Hayden 92
196 Shonto Prep 67

 

[CVCougar]

So the Divisions have been settled and the breakdown looks like this:
Division 1: 35 Teams
Division 2: 46 Teams
Division 3: 60 Teams
Division 4: 55 Teams
Sections are supposed to be out later this week so that scheduling can begin. With only 35 teams in D1 and 4 sections of 9 teams, roughly 1/2 of the D1 kids should qualify for state. D2 should qualify roughly 1/3 of their kids. In D3 and D4 it will be closer to 1/4 of the kids qualifying. I hope that they consider qualifying the top 5 or 6 sectional placers from D3 and D4 to make it more of an even opportunity. I didn't think it was right to allow schools that should be D1 with more than 2500 students to drop down to D3 and compete with schools with 700 students. It looks like a double whammy for D3 athletes if they don't allow more qualifiers. It would have been better to create 3 divisions 0-999 students, 1000-1999, and 2000 and up and make it a 32 man bracket. Thoughts??